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Pastor
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From: Robert Wangrud [SMTP:rwangrud@teleport.com]
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 9:17 AM
Subject: False Doctrine
To: rwangrud@teleport.com
FIRST ARTICLE IN AMENDMENT--CONSTITUTION FOR THE UNITED STATES
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."
I got the Trumpet today and Dixon is claiming there IS separation of Church and State. He has learned nothing. The opposite is true. The state Constitutions recognized the Christian Doctrine and thereby established the Christian Religion of the State. The First Article in Amendment protected the State from interference from Congress to interfere with "an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof" The state Constitution established the christian doctrine of the state. For example:
"And whereas we are required, by the benevolent principles of rational liberty, not only to expel civil tyranny, but also to guard against that spiritual oppression and intolerance wherewith the bigotry and ambition of weak and wicked priests and
princes have sourged mankind, this convention doth further, in the name and authority of the good people of this State, ordain,
determine, and declare that the free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or
preference, shall forever hereafter be allowed, within this State, to all mankind: Provided, that the liberty of conscience,
t hereby granted, shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness, or justify practices incon sistent with the peace
or safety of this State." XXXVIII, Constitution of New York 1777;
"That all persons and religious societies who acknowledge that there is one God, and a future state of rewards and punishments, and that God is publicly to be worshipped, shall be freely tolerated, The Christian Protestant religion shall be
deemed, and is hereby constituted and declared to be, the established religion of this State. That all denominations of Christian Protestants in this State, demeaning themselves peaceably and faithfully, shall enjoy equal religious and civil privileges....the following five articles, without which no agreement or union of men upon pretense of religion shall entitle
them to be... esteemed as a church of the established religion of this State: 1st. That there is one eternal God, and a future
state of rewards and punishments; 2nd. That God is publicly to be worshipped; 3rd. That the Christian Religion is the true
religion; 4th. That the holy scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are of divine inspiration, and are the rule of faith and practice; and, 5th. That it is lawful and the duty of every man being thereunto called by those that govern, to bear witness
to the truth....." XXXVIII, Constitution of South Carolina 1778.
"That all persons and religious societies who acknowledge that there is one God, and a future state of rewards and punishments, and that God is publicly to be worshipped, shall be freely tolerated, The Christian Protestant religion shall be
deemed, and is hereby constituted and declared to be, the established religion of this State. That all denominations of Christian Protestants in this State, demeaning themselves peaceably and faithfully, shall enjoy equal religious and civil
privileges....the following five articles, without which no agreement or union of men upon pretense of religion shall entitle them to be... esteemed as a church of the establis hed religion of this State: 1st. That there is one eternal God, and a future state of rewards and punishments; 2nd. That God is publicly to be worshipped; 3rd. That the Christian Religion is the true
religion; 4th. That the holy scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are of divine inspiration, and are the rule of faith and practice; and, 5th. That it is lawful and the duty of every man being thereunto called by those that govern, to bear witness
to the truth....." XXXVIII, Constitution of South Carolina 1778.
"....the several towns, parishes, precincts, and other bodies politic, or religious societies, to make suitable provision, at their own expense, for the institution of the public worship of GOD, and for the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion, and morality, in all cases where such provision shall not be made voluntarily....
"And every denomination of Christians, demeaning them selves peaceably, and as good subjects of the commonwealth, shall
>> be equally under the pro tection of the law; and no subordination of any one sect or denomination to another shall ever be established by law." Article III Constitution of Massachusetts 1780;
"Whereas our wise and pious ancestors, so early as the year one thousand six hundred and thirty-six, laid the foundation
of Harvard College, in which university many persons of great eminence have, by the blessing of GOD, been initiated in those
arts and sciences which qualified them for public employments, both in church and state; and whereas the encouragement of arts and sciences, and all good literature, tends to the honor of GOD, the advantage of the Christian religion, and the great benefit of this and the other United States of America,..." Chapter V (University of Cambrid ge...) Section I Article I Constitution of Massachusetts 1780;
In the following provisions, the people of the States demanded certain qualifications of public officials.
"As morality and piety, rightly grounded on evangelical principles, will give the best and greatest security to government, and will lay in the hearts of men the strongest obligations to due subjection; and as a know ledge of these is most likely to be propagated through a society by the institution of the public worship of the Deity,..." Article VI Constitution of New Hampshire 1792;
"Every person who shall be chosen a member of either house, or appointed to any office or place of trust, before taking his seat, or entering upon the execution of his office, shall take the following oath, or affirmation, if conscientiously scrupulous of taking an oath, to wit:
"'I, A B, will bear true allegiance to the Delaware State, submit to its constitution and laws, and do no act wittingly whereby the freedom thereof may be prejudiced.'
"And also make and subscribe the following declaration, to wit:
"'I, A B, do profess faith in God the Father, and Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, one God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by divine inspiration.'
"And all officers shall also take an oath of office." Article 22 Constitution of Delaware 1776;
"Any person chosen governor, lieutenant-governor, councillor, senator, or representative, and accepting the trust, shall, before he proceed to exe cute the duties of his place or office, make and subscribe the following declaration, viz:
"'I, A B, do declare, that I believe the Christian religion, and have a firm persuasion of its truth; and that I am seized and possessed, in my own right, of the property required by the constitution, as one qualification for the office or place to which I am elected.'" Chapter VI (Oaths and Subscriptions;...) Article I Constitution of Massachusetts 1780;
"That no person, who shall deny the being of God or the truth of the Protestant religion, or the divine authority either of the Old or New Testaments, or who shall hold religious principles incompatible with the freedom and safety of the State, shall
be capable of holding any office or place of trust or profit in the civil department within this State." XXXII, Constitution of
North Carolina 1776;
"Every person entitled to vote shall take the following oath or affirma tion, if required, viz:
"'I, A B, do voluntarily and solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that I do owe true allegiance to this State,
and will support the constitution thereof; so help me God.'" Article XIV Constitution of Georgia 1777;
"When any affair that requires secrecy shall be laid before the governor and the executive council, it shall be the duty of the governor, and he is hereby obliged, to administer the following oath, viz:
"'I, A B, do solemnly swear that any business that shall be at this time communicated to the council I will not, in any manner whatever, either by speaking, writing, or otherwise, reveal the same to any person whatever, until leave given by the council, or when called upon by the house of assembly; and all this I swear without any reservation whatever; so help me God.'" Article XXX Constitution of Georgia 1777;
"That every person, appointed to any office of profit or trust, shall, before he enters on the execution thereof, take the following oath; to wit: 'I, A B, do swear, that I do not hold myself bound in allegiance to the King of Great Britain, and
that I will be faithful, and bear true allegiance to the State of Maryland;' and shall also subscribe a declaration of his belief in the Christian religion." LV, Constitution of Maryland 1776;
"All general officers shall take the following engagement before they act in their respective offices, to wit: You _______ being by the free vote of the electors of this State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, elected unto the place of _______ do solemnly swear (or affirm) to be true and faithful unto this state, and to support the constitution of this state and of the United States; that you will faithfully and impartially dis charge all the duties of your aforesaid office to the best of your abili ties, according to law; So help you God. Or, this affirmation you make and give upon the peril of the penalty of perjury." Article IX Section 3 Constitution of Rhode Island 1842
THE POINT IS
Dixon of the Indianapolis Baptist Temple claims protection under the First Article in Amendment to the Constitution for the United States, but Dixon does not show where in the Constitution for Indiana the Christian religion is stated in the Indiana Constitution.
THE POINT IS
Can Dixon claim the protection of the First Article in Amendment, that protects the "establishment of religion" [establishment meaning established by the state Constitution] when Dixon has not shown in the Constitution of Indiana the Christian religion is established in the state of Indiana?
Dixon has fallen into the trap set by the spoilers to claim separation of CHURCH and STATE thereby setting his issue outside of the protections of the First Article in Amendment [Bill of Rights]
Reading the present Indiana Constitution I see in Article 1. "men" "Creator" "unalienable rights"
Article 2. "men" "natural right" "Almighty God"
Are not the words used in the Indiana Constitution used in God's word? Would it be hard to associate these words with the christian religion? The words "Unalienable Rights " can only be referring to the Christian God. If you can't see the establishment of the Christian Religion in the Indiana Constitution you're BLIND.
What would a search of the Indiana Constitution reveal? What oaths did the Constitution demand? Did the Indiana Constitution recognize the Old and the New Testament? In other words did and does the Indiana Constitution establish the Christian religion? If it does then a Church professing the christian religion has Frist Article in Amendment protections from the statutes of Congress. There was no separatation of Church and State recognized under the first Article in Amendment to claim this rediculious doctrine is to put your Chruch outside of the protections of the First Article in Amendment. I think Dixon should FIRE his so called Christian LAWYER as he sure does not understand the First Article in Amendment.
It's the establishment of FALSE DOCTRINE that destroys Christian men.
"We are bound to interpret the Constitution in the light of the law as it existed at the time it was adopted." Mattox v.
U.S., 156 US 237, 243.
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From: Robert Wangrud
Subject: False Doctrine
Robert Wangrud.